Pacific Rim Camera

Who are these guys?

And where do they get all of this stuff?


Oddly enough, even though we've been here more than ten years, more and more folks find us every week and quite a few of you have the same questions. We thought we'd try to address some of the FAQ's such as "Who are you guys?" and "Where do you get your stuff?" What follows is a brief overview of our operation, an introduction to ourselves and a hint at who we are, and a bit of our history and how we got here.

This page was first put up when I made the site. People have joined us, others moved on. I will try and keep this a bit more up to date.

Business Basics

There are now three of us, two full-timers and a long term part-timer. Full-time to us means pretty much just that -- we're essentially here unless we have to be somewhere else. We'll talk about where's "here" a little later. Our workweek isn't very well defined, but chances are that at least one of us is here from pretty early to pretty late, more often than not seven days a week. Most of our business transactions are carried out by e-mail although a fair number of you prefer the phone and there are still a few die-hard fax fans.

Those of you who try to call us know that we don't have official business hours, but we can promise you that if we're here, we'll answer the phone. For discussion purposes, it's a safe bet that someone is here from around 8 in the morning to around 6 or 7 at night (Pacific Time), Monday through Friday. The same holds true for the weekends, although it may take us a bit longer to get to the phone. And, I may as well confess, we are notoriously unreliable when it comes to messages left on the answering machine. Our machine answers sometime after the fourth ring. Most of our repeat customers have already figured out that if someone doesn't answer by the third ring -- to just try again later.

What's with this "try to get to the phone" stuff, you ask? Well, as I said, we are mostly e-mail oriented and on a typical day, when we first walk in, we are swamped. 100 message days are not unusual. It usually takes two of us working the Inbox (Microsoft Outlook) until mid-afternoon to get caught up with the overnight and morning mail. From around 3 o'clock on, we can usually work mail as it arrives. If we're here, we answer the phone when it rings, but quite honestly, we only get to the phone messages when or if we get a breather and things slow down -- sometimes that can take days. Don't feel bad; even our wives and kids send us e-mail when they want to leave a message.

The point is that we're geared towards e-mail and our goal is provide almost immediate turnaround. Most of our orders are filled, if not instantly, then later the same day. Once we're here, we're here and we are usually busy as heck. Consequently, most of the orders that we process during the day are almost always shipped out by Priority Mail that afternoon.

The Current Cast of Characters.

Right now, there are three of us: Mike Otto, Milan Zahorcak and Chris Otto. And if we 're going to do this in order of appearance then, I guess I'll start with me.

I'm Mike Otto. I'm one of the founders of the company. I write most of the stuff you see on the website, and am responsible for the website design and construction, good and bad, so you can blame me for the spelling errors, poor grammar, inaccurate facts, non-working links and longwinded sentences. For the moment, I am also the one who catalogs all of the inventory, so I guess you can also blame me for flaws in grading, misidentified items and prices you don't agree with. Since we moved into this building I've been confined to the backroom where we do our cataloging and inventory activities. Chances are if you call or write, Milan or Chris will respond. They're "out front" and handle the vast majority of your orders and inquiries.

My first area of collecting, once I got past the "want to collect everything" stage, was colored cameras, folding and box. I sold them during the course of my divorce, and now collect Canon FL and early FD cameras, and I like vintage Minolta, with a few odd Mamiya and Yashica thrown in for fun.

Milan Zahorcak is an antique camera collector (we'll let you figure out which adjective describes which word) and brings a lot of experience to Pacrim. He has a vast knowledge about photography, classic American wooden cameras, brass barrel lenses, early shutters and is a storehouse of obscure and profoundly arcane information. Don't ask him about shellac, for example, unless you've time to kill.

He is also a gifted writer. He wrote a monthly column for the Cascade Photographic Historical Society in their publication "The Cascade Panorama" until they quit publishing (the club disbanded) and has been widely reprinted. We have published some of his articles in our Photographica Pages and he'll be writing more for us in the future.

Milan has been a collector for over twenty years. He still collects the occasional wooden camera (combustibles, as we like to describe them -- ask him about the day he heated his house with a rare Henry Clay) and prefers cameras made by Anthony. In recent years, however, he has specialized in ancient optics and early shutters.

Milan now works "out front" with Chris. The two of them handle most of your email messages and phone calls. They process most of the orders, handle most of the inquires and do whatever else is required to ensure smooth operations. He also takes it upon himself to make the coffee (self-interest, I suspect, to keep me from doing it) and checking in periodically to ensure that I am still securely chained to the inventory computer.

Chris Otto is the third employee here at Pacrim. He has worked here off and on, mostly part-time since he was in high school. He doesn't really have an interest in cameras, but rather computers, which is handy as we rely on them and they tend not to always behave themselves. He is our network administrator, as well as handling orders when the computers seem to be working. He is taking classes at the local community college, and will be moving away to go to school full time this summer. He will be missed, both as my son, and as the guy who keeps the equipment running.

Past characters

Dale Lampson is the other founder of the company. Until we picked up a couple more people, it was likely that if you called, you talked to Dale. If you emailed, he wrote back. If you faxed, well, then you probably got me because Dale and the fax machine never saw eye to eye. Dale retired in May 2004 from Pacific Rim Camera and has sold his interest in the business. He can't quite get finding cameras out of his blood, and still buys cameras for us.

Dale has a way of finding cameras that is nothing short of amazing. He goes to garage sales, flea markets, pawnshops, camera stores and camera shows. He goes camping near towns with almost no people in them and comes back with cameras. I have seen him in action. I have gone to garage sales, only to have him go to the same house, and talk the same guy into bringing out cameras that he told me he didn't have.

Dale had cameras in his background during his formative years. His mother ran a camera store. Dale has been into antiques, collecting and wheeling and dealing. He was once big in collecting early Volkswagens, and found the earliest known (at that time) Hepp-Mueller (the predecessor to the Karman Ghia). He was a Volkswagen collecting celebrity. He abandoned Volkswagens when he moved to Oregon, but still liked antiques. He stumbled across a camera that caught his eye, an Ikoflex, no doubt from a childhood memory of the camera shop, and he was hooked.

Dale collects Nikon rangefinder, early F's and other "interesting" Nikon stuff. In addition, he collects Leica copies and has a few that are quite rare.

Tillman Bennett was our very first employee. He is was a senior at McNary High School in Keizer, Oregon, a member of the electric car race team (they engineer, build and race battery-powered cars with student drivers) and was on the Keizer city council. When he first came in to talk to us, he knew what the majority of classic cameras were, more than I can say for the employees of most modern camera stores.

When people lament that camera collecting is dying, as we aren't getting any new collectors, I point to Tillman. He has an interest in older cameras, and aspires to become a professional photographer. He worked part time, a couple of days a week after school and on Saturdays, answering email, packing orders and finding MP3 songs on the Internet to annoy the rest of us.

Tillman collects . . . well, we're not quite sure what Tillman collects, but he seems to be partial to exotic Pentax variations and Rollei 35s (sorry, that's an inside joke, but we think it's funny).

A Short History of Pacific Rim Camera

In high school my intention was to become a professional photographer. I got sidetracked into printing, and eventually found myself in the prepress area. I began collecting cameras when I was still entry level in the trade (read poor) and newly married (read poor again). Camera collecting was a bit rich for me at retail at this point. I can remember agonizing over my first camera book purchase. The price guide was $10, which represented another camera for my collection. As I worked nights and had Fridays off, I began buying at garage sales. I could never find the cameras I wanted, but found deals too good to pass up on cameras I didn't really like. I tried trading, but that didn't work so well. I decided to sell the ones I didn't want. I decided to put out a list of cameras for sale, advertised in Shutterbug magazine.

Somewhere along the line, I had met two of Salem's other camera collectors, Dale Lampson and Vern Augustine. I offered to sell cameras for them on my list, as they had many more interesting items than I did, and I wanted the list to be interesting enough that people would send for it more than once. They both accepted, and the catalog was born.

Dale and I happened to meet one morning at an estate sale, and rather than compete with each other for the cameras, we decided to buy them jointly. We strained our bank accounts, Dale was late returning to work and I was late taking my son to preschool, but the partnership started that day. Within months we merged our resources and created Pacific Rim Camera.

Vern elected not to join the partnership, and became our customer, our supplier and remained our friend. Unfortunately, he has passed away. We continued to buy and sell by mail through our catalog, and at camera shows. We began to travel to distant lands to do camera shows, to exotic places like Cleveland.

My first camera show outside the Pacific Northwest was in San Jose, the first summer show they had ever held (previous to that it was one show a year- weren't those the days!) It was a huge success, and soon we were traveling to New York, Miami, Boston, Dallas, Chicago, and Pasadena.

Eventually it grew to the point we knew one of us was going to have to do this full time. I was ready to make the plunge when the federal government offered to pay Dale not to come to work anymore. They were having a reduction of force, the beginning of the peace dividend, so they offered him an early retirement. He started doing this full time; the inventory was in his basement, so he could essentially work at home.

We got on the Internet, and the business continued to grow at an astounding rate. Apparently we were doing things right! Eventually it was my turn to abandon gainful employment to pursue this full time, and it was a tough decision. At this point I had gone through a divorce and was now a single parent of two children who were soon to be teenagers. Try as I might, I couldn't get my employer, the State Of Oregon Printing Division, to pay me to leave. I did manage to get two months leave without pay, and, well, here I am now, a couple of years later (my kids are now teenagers), never having to turn burgers to make ends meet.

Over the years, we have outgrown Dale's basement, moved the business to a rented three bedroom house, outgrew that, and bought a commercial building.

Where's "here?"

In the past, we have maintained a low profile locally as we have done all of our business by mail. We are opening a small retail shop in the front of our building, and welcome anyone who wants to drop in and look at something. Because of the amount of inventory we have, it isn't possible to set things up where you can browse everything. A small portion of our stuff will be displayed, but most anything can be brought up to the front.

Many of you often ask whether we have any additional stuff that isn't on our website. The best answer really is "No." In honesty, however, we do have many boxes of stuff that is yet to be cataloged, but whatever is out there is a mystery to us as well. And, no kidding, until it gets catalogued, it's almost the same as if it didn't exist. Now I know that may sound like it opens the door just a crack, but I'm just trying to be honest, the party line remains, "If it ain't on our website, we ain't got it."

Where do you get your stuff?

As to where we get all of this stuff, well, this is the equivalent to asking about state secrets -- if we told you we'd have to kill you. Actually, it comes from everywhere. We're not proud, we'll do whatever it takes. We do shows, buy from stores, buy from people who contact us through the net, basically anywhere and everywhere. We try to get fair prices for what we sell, and pay fair prices when we buy. We strive for repeat customers to which we sell, and also repeat suppliers from which we buy. One of us, who shall remain nameless (except that it wasn't me, Milan, Tillman or Chris) has even dug stuff out of the trash. It helps that we all love what we do and spend most of our waking hours here, to the detriment of personal hygiene, automotive maintenance, and social life.

That about sums it up. Ok, I was exaggerating about the personal hygiene thing - the house does have bathroom facilities and we all bathe regularly. But the rest of it stands . . .

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